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From: csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (Charles Forsythe)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: Torek's SECOND ANNUAL CONCLUSIVE ARGUMENT :->
Message-ID: <509@mit-vax.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 31-Jul-85 02:43:33 EDT
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Posted: Wed Jul 31 02:43:33 1985
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Reply-To: csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (Charles Forsythe)
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In article <1041@cbsck.UUCP> pmd@cbsck.UUCP (Paul Dubuc) writes:
>The right to life is not just a specific case.  It underlies all other
>rights.  What other human right means anything without it?

Can you say WAR? Can you say CAPITAL PUNISHMENT? Hmmm, sounds like
SOMEBODY is losing their God-given right to life!

>If calling a human
>"fetus" or "infant" means the former has no right to live and the latter does,
>what logically prevents anyone from from making the same distinction between
>"teenagers" and "adults"?
>Paul Dubuc

Nothing really. Remember the draft? 18 years old and *BAM* you have lost
your right to live safely! The labels we put on people have a definitive
effect on whether or not they are allowed to live. Why do murderers lose
their right to live (in some states)? Why does "the enemy" have any
less right to live than "the ally"? If a Russian general shoots a
nuclear missile at New York, what right do we have to kill millions of
innocent civilians in response (after all, it's not their fault The Big
Apple got baked!). What if you came home to find somebody raping your
wife? I'm sure you would try to stop them and see to it they lost their
right to liberty (got locked up). But would you, at all costs, respect
their right to life? After all, it underlies all other rights! You
wouldn't want to harm the fellow... just to stop him from raping your
wife. After all, the worst thing that could happen is that she would get
pregnant! (And we wouldn't want to rob him of his right to procreate!!)


-- 
Charles Forsythe
CSDF@MIT-VAX
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