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From: jeand@ihlpg.UUCP (AMBAR)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: \"Words mean what I pay them to mean . . .\"
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Date: Thu, 1-Aug-85 13:40:09 EDT
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> >>>And if you do believe so strongly in this premise, why did you spend so
> >>>much time trying to convince us of a falsehood ("the fetus is not alive")
> >>>instead of addressing the main issues? [NEWTON]  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
> >>Actually, I don't remeber [sic] Rich making this assertion.  You keep
						^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >>claiming he does.  Maybe if you listened to what Rich really said, you'd
> >>learn something. [FORSYTHE]
 
"this assertion", ie, "the fetus is not alive"

> > |  [Here Newton inserts two excerpts from Rich's posts in which Rich 
> >     is caught typing 'fetus is not alive'.  Rich's arguments were 
> >     deleted, I assume for brevity. (*or am I allowed to assume anything?
> >     I think not. ;*)
> 
> This has got to be the single most evasive, most abusive, and lamest attempt at
> argument I have ever seen in the history of the net.  An empty assertion is
> one for which related evidence is not provided.  How do you "prove" that
> someone who backs up his statements with such evidence is simply "making empty
> assumption"?  Just quote him, but leave out the parts of the articles in which
> he gave supporting evidence of his position!!  That should be proof enough!
> [ROSEN]
>  .....[long flaming paragraph] 

Rich made a mistake.  Nowhere did Thomas call the referenced assertion 
("fetus is not alive", for those, like myself, who tend to get lost in 
all the namecalling) 'empty', as Rich attacks him for so doing.

> -- 
> Anything's possible, but only a few things actually happen.
> 					Rich Rosen    pyuxd!rlr

					AMBAR
"But there's no room on my desk for ME!"