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From: csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (Charles Forsythe)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: \"Words mean what I pay them to mean . . .\"
Message-ID: <528@mit-vax.UUCP>
Date: Sat, 3-Aug-85 05:48:20 EDT
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Posted: Sat Aug  3 05:48:20 1985
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In article <407@cmu-cs-spice.ARPA> (Thomas Newton) writes:
>Let's be blunt.  The claim that "the fetus is not alive" goes against
>everything that modern biology tells us.  If you expect any of us to
>believe that you are right and modern biology is wrong, you had better
>damn well give some reasons other than "I say it's so and if you don't
>agree then you have a closed mind".  The methods which science uses to
>reach its conclusions are nothing if not open-minded.
>
>The only 'support' you have given for your assertion so far is the claim
>that the fetus is a parasite.  If false, this claim has no bearing on the
>main assertion.  If true, it falsifies your main assertion -- a parasite
>is a LIVING organism.
>
>Now you might be able to get a lively debate started on whether viruses are
>alive or not.  But I suspect that debate belongs in a different newsgroup.
>
>                                        -- Thomas Newton
>                                           Thomas.Newton@cmu-cs-spice.ARPA

Let's be blunt.  The claim that "the fetus is a human" goes against
everything that modern biology tells us.  If you expect any of us to
believe that you are right and modern biology is wrong, you had better
damn well give some reasons other than "I say it's so and if you don't
agree then you have a closed mind".  The methods which science uses to
reach its conclusions are nothing if not open-minded.

The only 'support' you have given for your assertion so far is the claim
that the fetus is close enough to human.  If false, this claim has no
bearing on the main assertion.  If true, then the fetus can be removed
from the mother.

Now you might be able to get a lively debate started on whether women
have rights or not.  But I suspect that debate belongs in a different
newsgroup.

(I love text editors)

-- 
Charles Forsythe
CSDF@MIT-VAX
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