Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site petrus.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!petrus!karn From: karn@petrus.UUCP (Phil R. Karn) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: cleaning cd-player optics Message-ID: <415@petrus.UUCP> Date: Sun, 21-Jul-85 23:05:30 EDT Article-I.D.: petrus.415 Posted: Sun Jul 21 23:05:30 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 24-Jul-85 21:01:03 EDT References: <412@petrus.UUCP> <4034@alice.UUCP> <414@petrus.UUCP> Organization: Bell Communications Research, Inc Lines: 22 Just after posting my last note, I found the following in Reference Data for Radio Engineers (p 22-5, 1977 printing): "The lower limits of visual response at the extremities of both the photopic [cones] and scotopic [rods] are not necessarily restricted to the range of wavelengths normally defined as visible light. For example, many observers can see the 905 nm radiation from a GaAs injection laser or the 1.06 micron radiation from a Nd3:YAG laser if the intensity is sufficiently high. Fig. 6 is an extension of the absolute scotopic luminosity curve showing that a GaAs injection laser emitting at 905 nm will elicit a visual response in the mind of an observer whose eyes are sufficiently sensitive to respond to ~1e-6 lm/W. --> Since moderately high energy densities at the retina may be required to elicit visual response at near-infrared wavelengths, the safety factor must not be discounted." <-- [emphasis mine] The item was quoted from F. J. Gardner, "Effectiveness of IR Covert Illuminators," RCA Lasers, 1974, pp. 178-181. From the accompanying table, it looks like the rods have about 1.39e-7 of the efficiency at 780 nm that they do at the peak sensitivity of 510 nm (green). This is something near 70 dB down. Phil