Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site petrus.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!petrus!karn From: karn@petrus.UUCP (Phil R. Karn) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: cd oversampling Message-ID: <431@petrus.UUCP> Date: Tue, 30-Jul-85 16:59:48 EDT Article-I.D.: petrus.431 Posted: Tue Jul 30 16:59:48 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 1-Aug-85 07:34:56 EDT References: <707@charm.UUCP> <1167@tekgvs.UUCP> Organization: Bell Communications Research, Inc Lines: 34 > In article an earlier article someone wrote: > 1>A second thought: why they call > 2>the output filters "anti-alias filters" I'll never know. > > 3>Oversampling introduces new aliases, but they are > 4>above the original Nyquist frequency and are removed by output > 5>filters. > > <3-5 restated>: the (new) aliases are removed by the output filters. > > And that's why they're called anti-alias filters... Negative. The output of the D/A and sample-and-hold on a CD player contains multiple IMAGE SPECTRA. This is entirely distinct from the phenomenon of "aliasing", which is unique to A/D conversion, i.e., digital recording. Aliasing refers to the possibility of a signal above half the sampling rate "masquerading" or "aliasing" (hence the name) as a lower frequency. Such high frequencies MUST be filtered out before A/D conversion, because once they reach the A/D converter there is absolutely nothing that can be done afterwards to separate aliases from the desired audio signals. This is in contrast to the problem of removing the high frequency "image spectra" which are found in the "stairsteppy" output of a D/A converter. This is done by a "reconstruction" filter which can be anywhere between the D/A converter and the speaker, or even omitted entirely if you don't care about feeding all that supersonic crap to your tweeters and fetching all of the dogs in the neighborhood. Unlike aliases in the A/D process, the image spectra produced in D/A conversion do NOT directly affect the audible sound, unless your hearing is so good that you can hear well past the CD half-sampling rate. However, they can cause intermodulation distortion, burn out tweeters and waste amplifier power. Phil