Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: notesfiles Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!amd!pesnta!hplabs!hp-pcd!hpfcla!mike From: mike@hpfcla.UUCP (mike) Newsgroups: net.bicycle Subject: Re: Orphaned Response Message-ID: <79200001@hpfclq.UUCP> Date: Wed, 24-Jul-85 13:32:00 EDT Article-I.D.: hpfclq.79200001 Posted: Wed Jul 24 13:32:00 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 30-Jul-85 06:16:06 EDT References: <1016@noscvax.UUCP> Organization: Hewlett-Packard - Fort Collins, CO Lines: 16 Nf-ID: #R:noscvax:1016:hpfclq:79200001:37777777600:872 Nf-From: hpfclq!mike Jul 24 09:32:00 1985 Speaking as the husband of a cop, one reason frequently cited by street cops for being reluctant to issue tickets to bicycle riders in our city is the fact that our traffic code was years out of date. There's simply very little deterrent value to a $3.00 ticket for running a stop sign, particularly if no point penalties are assessed against a license. It's hardly worth the effort to write the ticket. The same offense by an automobile driver is a lot more painful and hence there's a lot more deterrent value. Once the city made the fines more in line with automobile penalties, enforcement improved. I would like to think that compliance improved, too. Many cities are still using traffic codes for bicycles that were enacted ages ago. The fact that they haven't been updated is an indication of the city government's priority scale. Mike McNelly hplabs!hpfcla!mike