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From: fish@ihlpg.UUCP (Bob Fishell)
Newsgroups: net.bicycle
Subject: Re: car-sensors at traffic lights
Message-ID: <1021@ihlpg.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 2-Aug-85 17:44:41 EDT
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Posted: Fri Aug  2 17:44:41 1985
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> In article <1043@umcp-cs.UUCP> fred@umcp-cs.UUCP (Fred Blonder) writes:
> >What do y'all do when you're stuck at a traffic light that won't turn
> >green...
> 
> 	If the local laws allow a right turn on red after stopping, then
> 	that is what I do. After turning right I execute a U turn and
> 	again make a right turn at the intersection.
>                            !      |      !
>                            !           o !
>                            !      |    ! !
>                            !           o !
>                            !      |      !3. (right turn)
>          ------------------               --------------------
>                                                     < --  2. U turn
>                                                          \
> 	- - - - - - - - - -       *       - - - - - - - - |  -
>                                   (light)                /                  
>                                                     o-o    
>          ------------------               --------------------
>                            !      |    o ! 1. (rt on red)
>                            !           ! !
>                            !      |    o !

***     AC  T              YOUR     AGE ***

Yeah, but the U-turn is equally illegal, so...

I have a method which is much simpler.

1) Look Left
2) Look Right
3) Look Ahead
4) Look Left Again
5) If
	a) There're no cops in sight, and
	b) There's no traffic threatening,

6) Crash the light and keep going.  This also works when making left
turns.

O.K., there's something sacrosant about a red light.   I *always* stop for
them. However, sitting there like a dummy waiting for one that's not going
to change doesn't seem like good citizenship to me -- just dumb.  And going
through ridiculous machinations just to avoid the light seems like too
much work.
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				Bob Fishell
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