Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site uwvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!think!harvard!seismo!uwvax!pfeiffer From: pfeiffer@uwvax.UUCP (Phil Pfeiffer) Newsgroups: net.rec.scuba,net.consumers Subject: Re: Casio depth rating followup Message-ID: <254@uwvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 1-Aug-85 19:34:54 EDT Article-I.D.: uwvax.254 Posted: Thu Aug 1 19:34:54 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 3-Aug-85 05:27:54 EDT References: <248@uwvax.UUCP> <262@rruxe.UUCP> Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept Lines: 38 Xref: watmath net.rec.scuba:160 net.consumers:2750 > > ... but I can see the day coming when NOT diving with a decompression > > meter will be also viewed as a false economy. > > Third, WHAT ARE YOU, NUTS OR SOME THING!?!?!?! > Sorry, but if you are planing to get a decompression meter, save your > money for the chamber ride you WILL need if you rely on that trash. > Read these TRUE horror stories about them. ( ... ) ... (the stories are horrible, but lengthy, so I won't reprint them here ) Muchas gracias, Rich, for the followup, and for your comments. If we continue to get this sort of cross-talk on the net, we may yet save net.rec.scuba. Re decompression meters: If you reread my followup, you'll notice my reference to "second generation" decompression meters and an article in _Underwater USA_. I'm sorry if that didn't explain what I meant well enough. Let's try again. The 1st generation meters, as you indicate, were *bad* products -- real "bend-o-matics", according to _Undercurrent_, which ran a series of horror stories on early decompression meters a few years ago (reprinted in their _Best of Undercurrent_, still in print). Their are NEWER meters, however -- e.g., the Edge, which supposedly works and is in use by more than 1000 professional divers at this time, according to the article in the most recent _Underwater USA_ (I can't recall who wrote that article off the top of my head, but he seemed to have good credentials -- one of his references that comes to mind is Dr. Bruce Basset, who's famous for the articles which argue for more conservative dive tables than the US Navy's, based on the amount of bubbling that he observed in divers who'd "pushed" the tables in controlled experiments). The article didn't mention the Deco-Brain, another of the newer decompression meters, but that also may be a good product: Hans Hass, a reputed European diving pioneer who was into rebreather diving in the late 30's, endorses the Deco-Brain, and has written about it at length. I'm not suggesting giving up the watch and tables -- only that good, automatic devices are coming out on the market to supplement such calculations. I'd guess the microprocessor revolution is making this possible. --- Phil Pfeiffer