Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 (Tek) 9/28/84 based on 9/17/84; site tekgvs.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!tektronix!tekcrl!tekgvs!jerem From: jerem@tekgvs.UUCP (Jere Marrs) Newsgroups: net.cycle Subject: Re: Smart Traffic Lights? Message-ID: <1157@tekgvs.UUCP> Date: Mon, 22-Jul-85 14:11:20 EDT Article-I.D.: tekgvs.1157 Posted: Mon Jul 22 14:11:20 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 25-Jul-85 03:24:03 EDT References: <658@ihu1g.UUCP> <2637@ihuxf.UUCP> Reply-To: jerem@tekgvs.UUCP (Jere Marrs) Distribution: net Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton OR Lines: 52 The sensors in the pavement work through the perturbing effect of the magnetic susceptibility of your vehicle on the Q of a high-frequency resonant circuit. As your machine gets in the vicinity of the wires, it permeates the magnetic field and changes the inductance of the circuit. The electronics sense this and detect the presence of the machine. Ferrous metals are the most effective materials for permeating the field. Size also affects the field perturbation. Motorcycles are small and their content of ferrous metals is rather low making it less easy to detect. If you can see where the sensor wires are in the pavement, you can increase the probability of being detected by judicious choice of position. If the sensor wires are in a diamond shape, place your front wheel at the top of the diamond and your rear wheel at the bottom. In other words, straddle the diamond symmetrically. If they have repaved the road since installing the wires, good luck! If the wires are laid out in a large rectangle, try to align your wheels on top of one of the wires to maximize the effect. It *is* possible for them to adjust the detection threshold such that these measures are unnecessary even for a motorcycle. It is unlikely, however, that they will attach very much importance to our problem (my experience in Washington county Oregon). Harangue them. I, too, have waited through several cycles of the light to then run the light as the only alternative. After having been cited for it, I appeared in court and the judge threw it out of court and reprimanded the officer. I haven`t been bothered since. I'm sure that experience is an exception. Locally, we have some *new* kind of detectors which, I believe, are infrared. However they work, they appear to work for motorcycles. A new plague for motorcyclists here are the roads that have been "eaten" by those machines that chomp up the surface for recycling. The surface is scraped up and trucked off leaving a variable, grooved surface which is hell on two wheels. The edge is about 1 to 2 inches high making the exit from freeways so treated a life-risking experience. They think it is so neat to be able to scrape the old surface off and then take their time about resurfacing. They regard the "scraped-off" condition as usable until they`re good and ready for resurfacing. Around here, that represents months. I am avoiding most of the freeways for that reason. On a positive note, many of the secondary roads are lots of fun, however. Jere M. Marrs Tektronix, Inc. Beaverton, Oregon {ihnp4,ucbvax,...}!tektronix!tekgvs!jerem