Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site islenet.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!qantel!dual!islenet!bob From: bob@islenet.UUCP (Bob Cunningham) Newsgroups: net.dcom Subject: Re: lightning, PACXs and computers Message-ID: <1420@islenet.UUCP> Date: Mon, 29-Jul-85 18:18:44 EDT Article-I.D.: islenet.1420 Posted: Mon Jul 29 18:18:44 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 3-Aug-85 03:12:42 EDT References: <1397@islenet.UUCP> <646@mcnc.mcnc.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Hawaii Institute of Geophysics Lines: 55 > ... In particular I wonder > if your communications lines are above or below ground? What about > your power lines? Are they above or below ground? Secondly, do your > communications lines have any type lightning or surge protection? > Were any of the affected lines shielded? Do you have surge protection > on your power lines? All of the comm lines are underground, in conduits (not steam tunnels, which we don't have out here). In some cases these were leased "4-wire control circuits" from the local phone company (Hawaiian Telephone Co., a GTE subsidiary); in other cases, self-installed. All power lines are also underground (separate conduit, usually completely different trenches). Note that power lines were not affected, nor were regular phone lines (not a single modem was zapped, and no phone problems of any kind were reported). None of the comm lines had lightning or surge protection. Some (a few) were shielded -- though I'm not sure how well the shielding was grounded. Some power lines have surge protection, some not; in any case the path was NOT thru the power lines. Interestingly, some of the affected lines were entirely within a single building, typically of reinforced concrete (and for ordinary r.f. signals, the rebar cage usually provides some shielding). My theory is that -- at some point -- those comm lines were bundled with other lines passing from building to building. > We are in a lightning prone area, and I have been attempting to > understand the intricacies of lightning protection recently. I > confess that the more I hear the more confused I get. I have > concentrated on power protection, but your problems seem to have resulted > from a communications line hit. That's what the evidence definitely indicates. Surprised us. > I wouldn't have thought that such a > hit would spread to so many machines, unless you had a tremendous > earth current transient that affected buried lines in a wide area, > or were unlucky enough to get a hit on some central distribution > point. There was no central distribution point -- several completely separate computer "centers" were involved, none tied together in any way. I'd say the ground current transient (or, perhaps several as a charge briefly "bounded" back and forth from the clouds to the earth and back again until settling) seems likely. > Am I wrong in this evaluation? Is there some other way such > a strike could get into a widespread communications network? How > does one go about protecting such a network from lightning? I'd like some of those answers myself. Anyone else with experience care to comment? -- Bob Cunningham {dual|vortex|ihnp4}!islenet!bob Hawaii Institute of Geophysics Computing Facilities Honolulu, Hawaii