Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-eddie.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!MLY@MIT-MC.ARPA From: MLY@MIT-MC.ARPA Newsgroups: net.emacs Subject: Re: How many copies would YOU buy? Message-ID: <4734@mit-eddie.UUCP> Date: Fri, 19-Jul-85 13:06:00 EDT Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.4734 Posted: Fri Jul 19 13:06:00 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 20-Jul-85 12:07:07 EDT Sender: bcn@mit-eddi.UUCP Organization: MIT, Cambridge, MA Lines: 64 From: Richard Mlynarik Path: mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!harpo!whuxlm!spuxll!abnji!u1100a!pyuxww!gamma!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!convex!ctvax!pedz Yow! Newsgroups: net.emacs Date: Tue, 16-Jul-85 12:10:00 EDT My suggestion for the student problem is to have the university make cheap copies for the students. Since the code is public, I would assume the manual would not have a copyright either. This makes it easier for local copies to be made. (I think you can make copies for classwork anyway.) So why not sell the manuals for a reasonable price for most people, and then those places with a heart can make cheap copies available to their students. The only suggestion I have is to make a loose leaf version available for those places who are going to make copies so save copying hassles but that is fairly minor. Perry pedz@ctvax Everybody is free to make copies of the manual --- the question is what the cost of manuals printed and shipped by RMS should be. The manual, like the code, IS copyrighted, so that the sort of commercial slime who have been so willing to illustrate their small-mindedness via this newsgroup don't try to porn it off as theirs. The following is the copyright notice from the manual source, which is now distributed with every copy of GNU Emacs. All you need is TeX (another wonderful free program) and a laser printer (not-quite-so-cheap.) Botex is a TeX macro package which RMS wrote. Printer output is loose-leaf. (I just got a copy of the manual by running our Dover's output though a photocopier) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- \input botex @c Copyright (C) 1985 Richard M. Stallman. @ignore Permission is granted to make and distribute verbatim copies of this manual provided the copyright notice and this permission notice are preserved on all copies. Permission is granted to process this file through Tex and print the results, provided the printed document carries copying permission notice identical to this one except for the removal of this paragraph (this paragraph not being relevant to the printed manual). Permission is granted to copy and distribute modified versions of this manual under the conditions in the preceding paragraph, provided that the section entitled ``The GNU Manifesto'' is included exactly as in the original, and provided that the entire resulting derived work is distributed under the terms of a permission notice identical to this one. Permission is granted to copy and distribute translations of this manual into another language, provided that the section entitled ``The GNU Manifesto'' is included, either in English exactly as in the original, or in a translation approved by the author. @end ignore