Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site brl-tgr.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!brl-tgr!wmartin From: wmartin@brl-tgr.ARPA (Will Martin ) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Live Aid Message-ID: <110@brl-tgr.ARPA> Date: Tue, 23-Jul-85 16:41:43 EDT Article-I.D.: brl-tgr.110 Posted: Tue Jul 23 16:41:43 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 25-Jul-85 01:32:13 EDT References: <3326@drutx.UUCP> Reply-To: wmartin@brl-bmd.UUCP Distribution: net Organization: USAMC ALMSA Lines: 49 One of the main issues that is being ignored by the "build-up of the infrastructure" effort, no matter what the population density of Ethiopia might be, is the simple fact that there are areas of the planet where agriculture is a mistake. These might be "permanently" unsuitable (using permanent in a human but not geologic sense) or maybe cyclicly unsuitable, over a cycle that might be measured in years, decades, or centuries. Just because it might be physically *possible*, given a lot of effort, to perform subsistence farming in some areas does not mean that such areas *should* be farmed. Some of the problems in the Sahel and such areas are caused by the simple fact that the human populations that could be supported by such environments in a simple hunter-gatherer culture are no longer living in such a manner, but have been warped by the old "revolution of rising expectations" to want to have some of the goodies that are seen as part of "civilization", and thus have taken up agriculture and settled down. The land briefly supports a richer lifestyle, especially if modern technology and chemical fertilizers are brought to bear -- thus the population explodes. Then the land, strained beyond its limits, gives out (plus other impacts like rainfall changes and the price of fertilizer zooming conspire to increase the ill effects). The inevitable result is famine. However, we have at the same time started geopolitical activities, such as the formation of governments and ideologies, and attached artificial values to the concepts of "ownership" or "control" over such areas of land. Thus, we seem to be unable to simply do what human beings did for hundreds of thousands of years in the past when faced by unsuitable environments -- withdraw and leave them. (Of course, the overpopulation of surrounding areas also means that there is no place to withdraw *to*.) If you are expecting a magical solution as a summary, think again. There is none. As long as we expect that the planet will support more human beings than are justified by the normal role of humans in the environment and in the food chain, the problem will persist. Talking of the rebuilding of infrastructure, transportation networks, teaching new techniques, etc., as being "long term" is actually false hope. It might be a somewhat longer term than just shipping over a billion tons of surplus cheese or something, but it still ignores the basic cause -- too many people living in inappropriate areas. This applies elsewhere, by the way -- vast areas of the American West that are presently farmed by depleting unrestorable deep aquifers are just as unsuitably used. We happen to be rich enough to defer the inevitable crises for a few more generations. It will still come. Will Martin UUCP/USENET: seismo!brl-bmd!wmartin or ARPA/MILNET: wmartin@almsa-1.ARPA