Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ttrdc.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!amd!pesnta!hplabs!intelca!qantel!ihnp4!mgnetp!ltuxa!ttrdc!levy From: levy@ttrdc.UUCP (Daniel R. Levy) Newsgroups: net.flame,net.politics,net.legal,net.auto Subject: Re: Re: DWI Crackdowns Message-ID: <304@ttrdc.UUCP> Date: Sat, 27-Jul-85 18:06:15 EDT Article-I.D.: ttrdc.304 Posted: Sat Jul 27 18:06:15 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 30-Jul-85 05:15:04 EDT References: <202@SCIRTP.UUCP> <378@kontron.UUCP> <9272@ucbvax.ARPA>, <662@cvl.UUCP> <166@pyuxii.UUCP> Organization: AT&T, Computer Systems Division, Skokie, IL Lines: 32 Xref: linus net.flame:10467 net.politics:9480 net.legal:1539 net.auto:6407 > >As to the idea that an automobile cannot be confiscated because it is >private property and property owners have certain rights, there are >many laws which say this can, and indeed is, be done. In New Jersey, >and many other states, there are laws on the books which state that >any vehicle used in the commission of a crime can be confiscated and ^^^^^^^^^^^ >sold by the state. The most noticeable incidence of this is the >confiscating of vehilces (cars, trucks, boats, aircraft) used transport >illegal controled substances (drugs). Here in New Jersey, there are >state run auctions to sell off the autos collected during the year >which were used in the commission of a crime. > >T. C. Wheeler > Please clarify (I have no free access to legal eagles). Is not "due process" (i.e., a finding in court) required to do this? What if the vehicle was stolen? What if it is borrowed from someone unaware of the sinister purpose to which the vehicle was put? What if it is rented? If this is allowed I am shocked, but (sadly) not surprised. Laws like this sound like they were drafted by some- body like you, who would punish the innocent along with the guilty. (If the confiscation is limited to items owned by persons who are knowing parties to the crime in question, that's another story.) -- ------------------------------- Disclaimer: The views contained herein are | dan levy | yvel nad | my own and are not at all those of my em- | an engihacker @ | ployer, my pets, my plants, my boss, or the | at&t computer systems division | s.a. of any computer upon which I may hack. | skokie, illinois | | "go for it" | Path: ..!ihnp4!ttrdc!levy -------------------------------- or: ..!ihnp4!iheds!ttbcad!levy