Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ttidcc.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!ttidca!ttidcc!hollombe From: hollombe@ttidcc.UUCP (The Polymath) Newsgroups: net.flame,net.politics,net.legal,net.auto Subject: Re: DWI Crackdowns Message-ID: <626@ttidcc.UUCP> Date: Mon, 5-Aug-85 14:23:36 EDT Article-I.D.: ttidcc.626 Posted: Mon Aug 5 14:23:36 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 6-Aug-85 06:07:38 EDT References: <202@SCIRTP.UUCP> <378@kontron.UUCP> <1455@mnetor.UUCP> <269@SCIRTP.UUCP> Reply-To: hollombe@ttidcc.UUCP (The Polymath) Distribution: net Organization: The Cat Factory Lines: 29 Xref: linus net.flame:10569 net.politics:9616 net.legal:1612 net.auto:6488 Summary: In article <269@SCIRTP.UUCP> todd@SCIRTP.UUCP (Todd Jones) writes: >> Why not ... when someone drunk kill an innocent bystander, charge >> them with murder. That's what it is, really! > >No Fred, it's manslaughter, and drunk drivers who kill anyone >*can* be charged with manslaughter. The distinction between murder and manslaughter rests primarily on the presence or absence of premeditation and intent. It has been ruled that premeditation can occur in under 1 second. If a drunk accidentally kills someone, that's manslaughter. If they decide to kill someone and do so, that's murder. Actual case: A man was sitting on his motorcycle in the 2nd position in a left-turn lane. A drunk driver entered the intersection from his right and ran him down, _going behind the car in front of him to do so_. Three police officers witnessed the incident. The drunk driver was charged with 1st degree murder. I never did hear the final verdict in the case. (The victim was an instructor at the Northrop Institute of Technology). -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ The Polymath (aka: Jerry Hollombe) Citicorp TTI Common Sense is what tells you that a ten 3100 Ocean Park Blvd. pound weight falls ten times as fast as a Santa Monica, CA 90405 one pound weight. (213) 450-9111, ext. 2483 {philabs,randvax,trwrb,vortex}!ttidca!ttidcc!hollombe