Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site pur-ee.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!weil From: weil@pur-ee.UUCP (Weil) Newsgroups: net.games.hack Subject: questionable death Message-ID: <3062@pur-ee.UUCP> Date: Thu, 18-Jul-85 17:00:03 EDT Article-I.D.: pur-ee.3062 Posted: Thu Jul 18 17:00:03 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 20-Jul-85 07:34:46 EDT Organization: Electrical Engineering Department , Purdue University Lines: 24 While playing HACK a couple of days ago, an interresting thought occured to me. Actually, it occured after I died... I was swallowd by a trapper (no big deal) which turned out to be a shape changer. Before I could kill it, it changed into a large dog. Needless to say, I died instantly. I know that's what is supposed to happen in this case, but it doesn't seem to be very realistic. (I know, I know. What does reality have to do with HACK?). Assuming that what killed me was being crushed (I had 83 hit points at the time), I don't see how it could happen. Consider this: I was wearing +4 plate mail, +2 helmet, +0 shield, +2 elven cloak. Now assuming that a shape changer's stomach is not made out of case hardened steel, it seems to me that I would not be able to be compressed by a change to a smaller form. In fact, I would expect to puncture the stomach and kill the monster. I could understand taking a few hit points damage from the experience, but not instant death. Any other thoughts on the subject? Frank Weil purdue-ee