Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site kitty.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!rochester!rocksvax!sunybcs!kitty!larry From: larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) Newsgroups: net.ham-radio Subject: Re: Re: leased lines Message-ID: <182@kitty.UUCP> Date: Tue, 30-Jul-85 23:42:11 EDT Article-I.D.: kitty.182 Posted: Tue Jul 30 23:42:11 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 1-Aug-85 06:17:44 EDT References: <103@biomed.UUCP> <207@steinmetz.UUCP> Organization: Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, NY Lines: 73 > > ... (when she asked me if it would be used for voice, it made me > > wonder if they sell different kinds of lines , like, voice-quality, and not > > voice-quality?? What good is a non-voice quality line anyway????) > > Bob Lagasse N 1 A L G > > They were probably wondering if you wanted voice quality or data quality. > Data quality lines are less noisy than voice quality. It sounds like you > want a data-quality leased line. There are several basic categories of leased lines: (1) SIGNAL GRADE lines provide metallic continuity and will generally provide a frequency response up to 30 Hz. There is absolutely no attempt at loading or other circuit design for voice frequencies. Nothing prevents voice frequency use if the loop is short and within the same central office. (2) TELEGRAPH GRADE lines provide neutral or polar signalling for tty's, and are available up to 150 baud. Voice transmission is not possible because all you get are signalling leads from a telco interface. (3) VOICE GRADE lines give you a bandwidth of 300 to 3,000 Hz with DC continuity if within the same central office. E&M signalling is available if more than one central office is involved, but you won't get actual DC continuity any more. (4) OFF-PREMISES EXTENSION lines giving you voice frequency range with DC and ringing transmission *specifically* intended for use with PBX's. (5) RINGDOWN TIE LINES like taxicabs, hotels, etc. use. You pick up a non-dial telephone at one end and a similar telephone rings at the other end. (6) DATA GRADE lines still give you only 300 to 3,000 Hz frequency response with *no* DC signalling; however, the lines are carefully designed for flat frequency response (i.e., equalized), low noise, low envelope delay, low phase jitter, etc. There are various categories of the above parameters called 'conditioning', with typical grades of C1, C2, and C3 conditioning. The higher numbers give better quality for more $$$. Conditioning becomes critical when data circuits must run through carrier equipment. (7) WIDEBAND DATA lines available in typical bandwidths of 48 kHz and 256 kHz. These lines are so expensive it's unreal. (8) RADIO PROGRAM lines typically provide *one-way* service for radio stations, and are available equalized for 5 Khz and 15 kHz bandwidth. (9) VIDEO CIRCUITS where available are gen-u-wine coaxial cable or telco microwave link with a 6 MHz bandwidth. These lines are *so* expensive you don't even want to ask... (10) DIGITAL DATA SERVICE is pretty much an AT&T offering where you can get data circuits with data sets for speeds from 2,400 baud to 1.5 Mbits/sec. There are all sorts of variations of the above, like multi-point lines, special burglar alarm lines (series circuits), telex/twx lines, etc. And then if you want a *real* laugh, ask your telephone company for Picturephone (tm) service... :-) to AT&T Larry Lippman Recognition Research Corp. Clarence, New York UUCP {decvax,dual,rocksanne,rocksvax,watmath}!sunybcs!kitty!larry {rice,shell}!baylor!kitty!larry syr!buf!kitty!larry VOICE 716/741-9185 TELEX {via WUI} 69-71461 answerback: ELGECOMCLR "Have you hugged your cat today?"