Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site randvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!amd!pesnta!hplabs!sdcrdcf!randvax!jim From: jim@randvax.UUCP (Jim Gillogly) Newsgroups: net.crypt,net.legal Subject: Re: RSA cryptographic algorithm patented? Message-ID: <2610@randvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 25-Jul-85 14:03:00 EDT Article-I.D.: randvax.2610 Posted: Thu Jul 25 14:03:00 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 30-Jul-85 04:36:07 EDT References: <9028@ucbvax.ARPA> <490@calmasd.UUCP> <5810@utzoo.UUCP> Reply-To: jim@rand-unix.UUCP (Jim Gillogly) Organization: Banzai Institute Lines: 19 Xref: linus net.crypt:392 net.legal:1536 I read the letter claiming a patent on the RSA algorithm and passed it to Stockton Gaines, who knows about things like this. His first impression was the one given by several people on the net, that you can't patent an algorithm or an idea. However, since then he ordered and got a copy of the patent and has changed his mind. Apparently one kind of legally acceptable patent is the "use" patent, which lays claim to certain uses of something. The example he gave is an inventor who discovers that a chemical can be used for something unexpected. For example, if you discover that aspartame will behave as a room-temperature superconductor (different from its use as a sweetener), you can patent any use of aspartame as a conductor. These people have patented the use of the RSA algorithm in encryption. Apparently if you want to use it as a good but slow random number generator you're still in the clear ... as long as the random numbers aren't used to encrypt plaintext! I'd be interested in reactions to this theory... -- Jim Gillogly {decvax, vortex}!randvax!jim jim@rand-unix.arpa