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From: jsq@im4u.UUCP
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Subject: Re: Mail routing -- problems showing up
Message-ID: <386@im4u.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 5-Aug-85 16:45:24 EDT
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Posted: Mon Aug  5 16:45:24 1985
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References: <3018@nsc.UUCP> <6900002@mirror.UUCP>
Reply-To: jsq@im4u.UUCP (John Quarterman)
Organization: U. Texas CS Dept., Austin, Texas
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In article <6900002@mirror.UUCP> rs@mirror.UUCP writes:
>>Why should the defects of UUCP be foisted on the rest of the world,
>>which has gotten along quite well without them for many years?
>>-- 
>>John Quarterman,   UUCP:  {ihnp4,seismo,harvard,gatech}!ut-sally!jsq
>
>Maybe becuase we're bigger and older? :-)

Ah, I see.  The UUCP net has been around since 1969 (the beginning date
of the ARPANET) or earlier.  And all this time I thought Version 1 UNIX
was written in 1969 and UUCP in about 1978.

As for bigger, no doubt I counted wrong the last time I looked and saw
that the ARPA Internet, the XEROX Internet, DEC's net, and IBM's VNET
are each about the same size as the UUCP net.

I'd guess by your smiley face that you were kidding, but there seem
to be people who believe all that.


PS:  Some people have interpreted my original posting, especially the
part quoted at the beginning of this article, to mean that I think that
some people are trying to make, for instance, the ARPA Internet use
UUCP routing syntax internally.  I don't believe that.  I do believe
that the refusal of some people to accept anything better than
old-style UUCP bangist source routing for internal UUCP network use
puts an unnecessary burden on all gateways between UUCP and more
rational networks, not to mention an unnecessary burden on anybody who
has to send mail inside the UUCP network.

Domains are not a horrible nasty military plot which outsiders are
trying to impose on UUCP.  They are a possible solution to many of the
problems of UUCP which some insiders are trying to incorporate.  They
don't limit the flexibility of the network, either:  they increase it,
since connections inside a subdomain can change without the outside world
having to know, much less wait a month for a global map to be updated.

Trivia item:  the majority of the registered hosts in the ARPA Internet
run UNIX.
-- 
John Quarterman,   UUCP:  {ihnp4,seismo,harvard,gatech}!ut-sally!jsq
ARPA Internet and CSNET:  jsq@ut-sally.ARPA, soon to be jsq@sally.UTEXAS.EDU