Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 (MU) 9/23/84; site mulga.OZ Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!munnari!mulga!bjpt From: bjpt@mulga.OZ (Benjamin Thompson) Newsgroups: net.math Subject: Re: Data compression and information theory Message-ID: <854@mulga.OZ> Date: Mon, 5-Aug-85 19:56:07 EDT Article-I.D.: mulga.854 Posted: Mon Aug 5 19:56:07 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 7-Aug-85 01:03:52 EDT References: <417@lasspvax.UUCP> <1010@mtgzz.UUCP> Reply-To: bjpt@mulga.OZ (Benjamin Thompson) Organization: Comp Sci, Melbourne Uni, Australia Lines: 24 In article <1010@mtgzz.UUCP> version B 2.10.2 (MU) 9/23/84; site mulga.OZ version B 2.10.PCS 1/10/84; site mtgzz.UUCP mulga!munnari!seismo!harvard!think!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!tektronix!uw-beaver!cornell!vax135!ariel!mtunf!mtunh!mtuxo!mtgzz!dmt dmt@mtgzz.UUCP (d.m.tutelman) writes: >The one-bit-per-character assertion comes from an old classic paper. >(Don't have a reference handy, but I believe it's by Claude Shannon >himself, published in BSTJ in the 1950s or even '40s.) >What he did was have human beings "guess" the next letter in >meaningful (i.e. - not nonsense) English sentences. "Space" was included >as a character. But how much of each sentence was made available before guesses were made ? I have two sentence beginnings for you to guess the next letter of: 1) "A" and 2) "". In comparison to simple Huffman encodings, I don't expect very many people to get it right within 5 guesses. Are guesses really desirable in a compression system anyway ? There's is no-one to say whether the guess was right or wrong ... An obvious argument against one-bit-per-character goes something like this : The average word has (say) five characters, which would imply that its information content can be represented with 5 bits. This in turn would imply that there are around 2^5, or 32, valid words. Rather limited. This is my interpretation of what one-bit-per-character means; if I have missed something, please correct me. Ben Thompson seismo!munnari!bjpt