Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site sphinx.UChicago.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!tektronix!uw-beaver!cornell!vax135!houxm!ihnp4!gargoyle!sphinx!mmar From: mmar@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP (Mitchell Marks) Newsgroups: net.med,net.women Subject: Re: Breast Cancer Treatment. Message-ID: <884@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> Date: Wed, 24-Jul-85 03:10:51 EDT Article-I.D.: sphinx.884 Posted: Wed Jul 24 03:10:51 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 27-Jul-85 04:05:32 EDT References: <1765@aecom.UUCP> <602@unc.UUCP> , <647@unc.UUCP> Organization: U Chicago -- Linguistics Dept Lines: 17 Xref: watmath net.med:1806 net.women:6657 > My purpose in the statment you object to was to illustrate > why self-choice was not an acceptable alternative to > random assignment to treatment groups. > > Bill Oliver Before anyone misunderstands and leaps on this, note that Bill Oliver was surely talking about the situation *after* the patient has elected to participate in the study. In any clinical study (with human subjects), the choice of whether or not to participate has to be offered first. The strictures against self-choice apply to assigning those who have already elected to participate into the various study groups. -- -- Mitch Marks @ UChicago ...ihnp4!gargoyle!sphinx!mmar