Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site rti-sel.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!harpo!whuxlm!akgua!mcnc!rti-sel!wfi From: wfi@rti-sel.UUCP (William Ingogly) Newsgroups: net.med Subject: Re: while my catarrh gently weeps... Message-ID: <324@rti-sel.UUCP> Date: Wed, 31-Jul-85 13:12:49 EDT Article-I.D.: rti-sel.324 Posted: Wed Jul 31 13:12:49 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 1-Aug-85 19:32:29 EDT References: <1049@cbdkc1.UUCP> <467@cadre.ARPA> <1066@cbdkc1.UUCP> <245@bbncc5.UUCP> <1072@cbdkc1.UUCP> Reply-To: wfi@rti-sel.UUCP (William Ingogly) Distribution: na Organization: Research Triangle Institute, NC Lines: 40 Summary: In article <1072@cbdkc1.UUCP> tjs@dkc1.UUCP ( Tom Stanions) writes: >>What is catarrh? What is it made of? How does it "build up?" >>Why has modern medical science ignored this important, um, thing, >>um, waste product, um, elan vital? Sheesh! >> >>/Steve Dyer > >I have tried to make it a point that people survived well before 20th century >meidicine. Must all knowledge prior to 1900 be trashed out so that modern >medicine can continue it's research? Modern medicine's ignorance of catarrh is >most interesting. You haven't answered Steve's questions. If the existence of something called 'catarrh' (which my dictionary defines as an obsolete name for an inflammation of a mucous membrane) is to be accepted by the rest of us as a possible causal agent in illness, you're going to have tell us WHAT it is and WHY there's been a conspiracy to suppress this 'knowledge.' Science and medicine involves the refinement of models based on acquired information. Many 19th century and earlier models of the body were based on incomplete knowledge and incorrect observations. The brain was once thought (I seem to recall reading) to be a kind of radiator or cooling organ for the blood, the heart was the seat of emotions, etc. These earlier models were 'trashed' because better models came along that better explain observed phenomena. As to people 'surviving well' prior to 20th century medicine, take a look at the mortality rates for various diseases prior to 1900 and at the changes in the mean life span over the last two or three centuries. Conspiracy to suppress vital information, indeed. Modern medicine's 'ignorance' of catarrh is no more interesting than modern medicine's 'ignorance' of models of human behavior that were popular in Shakespeare's day. I don't know what to suggest if you don't believe that modern medicine knows more about the body and human behavior than ancient medicine, but I'm sure you can find a few hunter-gatherer groups that are looking for shamans if you try hard enough :-) -- Cheers, Bill Ingogly