Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site terak.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!hao!noao!terak!jb From: jb@terak.UUCP (John Blalock) Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: servo computer products Message-ID: <645@terak.UUCP> Date: Tue, 23-Jul-85 11:58:11 EDT Article-I.D.: terak.645 Posted: Tue Jul 23 11:58:11 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 25-Jul-85 23:20:21 EDT References: <732@abnji.UUCP> <7000006@uicsl> Organization: Terak Corporation, Scottsdale, AZ, USA Lines: 24 > Does anybody know how to get an RS232 interface off a board with > only a +5 power supply? I thought -12 was needed... Both +12v and -12v are needed if you want true RS232 levels. The RS232 spec defines a space (logic 0) as +3 to +15v and a mark (logic 1) as -3 to -15v. However, most RS232 equipment doesn't need these levels to work properly. If the equipment you are driving uses a 1489 line receiver (and most do these days) you can get away with standard TTL levels. The 1489 logic low threshold is specified to be between +0.75 and +1.25 volts. For short runs you can drive the "RS232" line with a 7404 (remember you need to invert the logic levels). For somewhat longer lines, I recommend using a 7405 or 7406 open collector inverter with a on-board pull up resistor of ~2K. Neither will give you the capability to drive lines as long as standard RS232 drivers can drive, nor will you have the noise immunity of standard RS232. But to drive a < 10-foot line to a local terminal or printer I've never experienced any problems using TTL voltage levels except with equipment that didn't use the 1489 line receivers.. John Blalock, W7AAY uucp: ...{amd,decvax,hao,ihnp4,seismo}!noao!terak!jb phone: (602) 998-4800 us mail: Terak Corp., 14151 N. 76th St., Scottsdale, AZ 85260 \\\\\ -----> Soon to be part of CalComp, A Sanders Company