Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site hao.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!hao!hull From: hull@hao.UUCP (Howard Hull) Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: RS232 Voltages Message-ID: <1658@hao.UUCP> Date: Thu, 25-Jul-85 23:00:40 EDT Article-I.D.: hao.1658 Posted: Thu Jul 25 23:00:40 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 28-Jul-85 07:51:36 EDT References: <55@ssc-vax.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: High Altitude Obs./NCAR, Boulder CO Lines: 19 Ken Finney writes: > The official voltages levels are +12 and -12, giving an awful lot of noise > margin. To save money, microcomputers years ago started using +5 and 0. > I have seen a lot of peripherals that clip the incoming voltages to +4.7 > and 0.7 using a zener and a resistor. These peripherals work whether you > are using the official voltages or not. > Sometimes, however, they don't work. One way to get one that doesn't work is to use a long, shielded twisted pair cable. The high capacity of the cable causes the normally sharp bit transitions to be spread out as exponentials. Then, depending on the bit pattern, it is possible to get a shift in the bit transition detection point if the threshold point is not exactly between the + and - voltage of the sending source. This results in some bits coming out narrower than others and, in addition to confusing the logic that locates the bit center, this can result in either a missed bit or a misread bit. We have actually had this happen here with PE Fox terminals that have a threshold separated by a clamp diode and a base-emitter junction from ground. Howard Hull {ucbvax!hplabs | allegra!nbires | harpo!seismo } !hao!hull