Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site persci.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!mtuxo!mtunh!mtung!mtunf!ariel!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tikal!cholula!persci!bill From: bill@persci.UUCP Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: Nobody here but us engineers Message-ID: <302@persci.UUCP> Date: Mon, 29-Jul-85 12:45:09 EDT Article-I.D.: persci.302 Posted: Mon Jul 29 12:45:09 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 31-Jul-85 05:23:54 EDT References: <119@brl-tgr.ARPA> Reply-To: bill@persci.UUCP (William Swan) Organization: Personal Scientific, Woodinville WA Lines: 27 Summary: In article <119@brl-tgr.ARPA> LMTRA@SRI-KL.ARPA writes: >>Are there any parts that you've seen in IC manufacturers data books or >>spec sheets that are real hot, but not out yet? ><<Yes, indeed..No large production orders, no production. [name] is not in the >custom chip business... >Leon Traister (LMTRA@SRI-KL.ARPA) Leon, the point I was trying to make was that this particular component was in their catalogs for three years, never labelled "preliminary", yet they had never produced more than 10 prototypes. Certainly after a couple years they could have decided that there was no market and pulled it back, yet until we actually started pulling strings to get the part, there was *no* indication from *anybody* there that this was anything other than a part in full production. Not from the distributor, not from their own marketing people! They even had full spec sheets (from 10 prototypes??), and quoted availabilities that were downright lies! If they had just told us up front that they were not making the component, fine. I would have been disappointed, but I wouldn't have designed the **** thing in, costing my company time and money. (Remember, we were a small 20-man uC company, with small ordering volumes, not a giant like IBM. Our orders would never have been really large, not enough to start up an IC fab line.) -- William Swan {ihnp4,decvax,allegra,...}!uw-beaver!tikal!persci!bill