Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 8/23/84; site ucbcad.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!ucbvax!ucbcad!faustus From: faustus@ucbcad.UUCP (Wayne A. Christopher) Newsgroups: net.micro.att,net.unix-wizards Subject: Re: Re: instability in Berkeley versus AT&T releases Message-ID: <82@ucbcad.UUCP> Date: Mon, 22-Jul-85 18:09:00 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbcad.82 Posted: Mon Jul 22 18:09:00 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 25-Jul-85 02:18:11 EDT References: <2067@ucf-cs.UUCP> <363@cuae2.UUCP> <2423@sun.uucp> <964@daemon.UUCP> <46@brl-tgr.ARPA> Organization: UC Berkeley CAD Group, Berkeley, CA Lines: 25 Xref: linus net.micro.att:309 net.unix-wizards:11160 > > There are also plenty of examples where AT&T adds a BSD feature, > > but changes the command or system call name or syntax. Isn't that > > referred to as the NIH (Not Invented Here) syndrome? When will AT&T > > (and DEC for that matter) realize that UC Berkeley is NOT a competitor? > > There may be some "NIH" syndrome at work, but you should also appreciate > that BSD software is not necessarily up to commercial standards, so it > might need some adaptation before being supported by a commercial outfit. Oh sure, we can't have functions called "index" and "rindex". That's definitely not up to commercial standards -- we have to have them called "strchr" and "strrchr"... Fixing bugs is fine, but it's not usually necessary to make the stuff incompatible to make it work. * > Unfortunately, AT&T has been picking up some of the WORST features from > BSD. cat -v, ls -[a-z][A-Z], yuck. I don't know who is holding a gun to your head and making you type "cat -v", or maybe tying you up and making you watch 'while 1 man ls', but I wouldn't call these BSD's "worst features"... Wayne * Don't flame me if the index/strchr difference isn't an example of NIH -- I haven't used V5 much...