Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/3/84; site maynard.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!wjh12!maynard!campbell From: campbell@maynard.UUCP (Larry Campbell) Newsgroups: net.micro.att,net.unix-wizards Subject: Re: Re: instability in Berkeley versus AT&T releases (absurdly long) Message-ID: <133@maynard.UUCP> Date: Thu, 25-Jul-85 11:39:02 EDT Article-I.D.: maynard.133 Posted: Thu Jul 25 11:39:02 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 27-Jul-85 00:58:05 EDT References: <2067@ucf-cs.UUCP> <363@cuae2.UUCP> <2423@sun.uucp> <5819@utzoo.UUCP> Organization: The Boston Software Works Inc., Maynard, MA Lines: 32 Xref: linus net.micro.att:327 net.unix-wizards:11196 > The lack of file system quotas probably reflects AT&T's openly-expressed > view (which I agree with) that except in special situations, if you think > you need disk quotas then you really need more disks instead. Situations > involving hostile users, e.g. undergrads, are obviously an exception -- > note that this was the original motive for the 4.2 implementation of > quotas -- but how many businesses have that problem? Hostile users aren't the only good reason to have quotas. What about buggy software that gets into an infinite loop writing to a file? It's pretty annoying that such a bug can essentially crash (i.e., make useless) a timesharing system. > As many people have pointed out, unbundling (a) is a botch, and (b) is > necessary if you are selling Unix boxes with small disks. Not everybody > has Eagles to put it all on... I thought unbundling was done mainly to reduce the entry-level price of a Unix license. After all, you could always ship everything and let the user decide which pieces to devote disk space to. (And I agree -- unbundling is a botch.) > -- > Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology > {allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!henry Larry Campbell decvax!genrad The Boston Software Works, Inc. \ 120 Fulton St. seismo!harvard!wjh12!maynard!campbell Boston MA 02109 / / ihnp4 cbosgd ARPA: decvax!genrad!wjh12!maynard!campbell@DECWRL.ARPA