Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site sdcsvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!tektronix!uw-beaver!cornell!vax135!houxm!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxm!sftig!sftri!sfmag!eagle!ulysses!allegra!oliveb!hplabs!sdcrdcf!sdcsvax!jww From: jww@sdcsvax.UUCP (Joel West) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac,net.micro.pc Subject: IBM: "No PC2"; Apple: $17m loss Message-ID: <993@sdcsvax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 19-Jul-85 11:13:40 EDT Article-I.D.: sdcsvax.993 Posted: Fri Jul 19 11:13:40 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 25-Jul-85 01:11:21 EDT Organization: CACI, Inc - Federal, La Jolla Lines: 36 Keywords: IBM PC2, Apple profits Xref: linus net.micro.mac:2077 net.micro.pc:4374 Two news notes, from the Wall Street Journal and the LA Times NEW YORK--IBM doesn't plan to introduce a much-rumored "PC2" personal computer model anytime soon, Entry Systems Division Pres. Wm. C. Lowe said....When pressed..., Lowe said any introduction of a successor to the PC wouldn't come before year's end. The rumored product is "like Big Foot - it's just not there," Lowe said. The articles go on to speculate than IBM is trying to avoid the chilling effect the PC2 is having on its current products, although Lowe claimed he made the announcement because the "speculation is probably hurting competitor's sales." (In February, Apple's Guy Kawasaki said flatly "there will be no new Macintosh in 1985." This obviously implies a new machine at the Jan. 1986 shareholder's meeting, which InfoWorld's John Dvorak claims will be a color Mac.) Separately, Apple posted its first lost since it went public. It lost $17 million, sales dropped 11% in the April-June quarter; It charged $40 million to the reorganization that sacked 1,200 workers, closed 3 of 6 plants, and slashed the advertising budgets. Analysts note that in 1984, Apple discouraged businesses from buying Apple // computers for fear it would hurt Mac sales, but the Mac never took up the slack. One survey said Apple held 27% each of new sales to small and mid-sized business in the 1st Q 1984; down to 13% and 8% respectively one year later. ---- Joel West CACI, Inc. - Federal (c/o UC San Diego) {ucbvax,decvax,ihnp4}!sdcsvax!jww jww@SDCSVAX.ARPA