Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version VT1.00C 11/1/84; site vortex.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!vortex!lauren From: lauren@vortex.UUCP (Lauren Weinstein) Newsgroups: net.misc Subject: Re: $1288 ashtrays Message-ID: <724@vortex.UUCP> Date: Sat, 27-Jul-85 04:39:09 EDT Article-I.D.: vortex.724 Posted: Sat Jul 27 04:39:09 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 28-Jul-85 09:37:48 EDT References: <537@leadsv.UUCP> Organization: Vortex Technology, Los Angeles Lines: 28 Ah! Some contractors may kick and scream--but it makes no difference-- a rose by any other name... Yes, paperwork adds to costs. Yes, many items are overspecified. That's still no excuse for the sorts of things we're seeing. A spec that says an ashtray must withstand 2.5 G means you build it from metal, not out of kleenex. And let's look at the more frequent, and probably even more costly, cases. How about the one for the little plastic feet on the bottom of office stools? I seriously doubt that there was a separate spec for that--nor that it was involved in much separate paperwork. But when one of those little 25 cent suckers split, the replacement part cost was something like $150 from the stool manufacturer, apparently. Nothing like cost effectiveness. I won't even bother to bring up the many charges that have started showing up for such "defense" items as company parties, promotional models and giveaways, dog kennels, vacation trips, etc. C'mon. We know that the way some government purchasing is done has some problems. But just because someone occasionally acts in a non-optimal manner is still no excuse to steal his wallet. Some contractors seem to have forgotten this, and they try to fleece the government (and thusly us) for all they think they can get away with. --Lauren--