Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-eddie.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!think!mit-eddie!wdc From: wdc@mit-eddie.UUCP (William Cattey) Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: Re: Jason on Bars Message-ID: <4785@mit-eddie.UUCP> Date: Fri, 26-Jul-85 17:13:45 EDT Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.4785 Posted: Fri Jul 26 17:13:45 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 28-Jul-85 08:11:40 EDT References: <3127@decwrl.UUCP> <737@ptsfa.UUCP> Organization: MIT, Cambridge, MA Lines: 28 I agree that, in theory, people should not be labeled. However, I am afraid that although Rob did not like the Jason's article, there is a common theme in the article, and in Rob's criticism: Distance. Most of the time I find Gay bars unpleasent places to visit. I don't visit them much anymore. I'd rather watch television, and I haven't plugged my television in in nearly a year. You're right Rob! Jason describes stereotypes of people seen from a distance. The distance is the one they create. I have all but given up trying to bridge that distance. My observation is that if I meet you, for example, at a bar, you won't talk to me unless you have been introduced to me by someone we both know. The rest of the environment is people keeping their distance. Jason, your insights are right on target. If I meet you at a bar, how can I know how to reach you in the midst of those clawing to meet me for the one night stand, or those who walk away in mid sentence? Find me at Spinoff on Tuesdays. The light is better, and when there is nobody I know, I can enjoy pure skating. Gay skating is little better than bars, but I feel comfortable enough there so that I don't get so cynically pissed off when people play distance games. Besides, a few of the better skaters are nice people and love to teach what they know. Just popped in after a long time off the list, Bill Cattey