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From: brandx@ihlpl.UUCP (H. D. Weisberg)
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Subject: Re: Genesis died when Pete left
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Date: Fri, 19-Jul-85 14:40:15 EDT
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Posted: Fri Jul 19 14:40:15 1985
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> but what bugs me most about their current lineup is the fact that they don't 
> credit Daryl Stuermer or Chester Thompson as full fledged members of the band.
> They are both good musicians and deserve better (If you can ever get an album
> called Angels of the Deep, or a self-titled album by Sweetbottom, you'll hear
> just how good Stuermer is. He also played with Zappa, and I think once with
> Ponty).
> 

Although Stuermer played with Sweetbottom, it was his brother who played
on Angels of the Deep.  Daryl also didn't play on one other Sweetbottom
album I know of.  Sweetbottom is now gone.  They're known as "Oceans"
know;  I've heard nothing good about them, only that they've gone
more commercial.

I think Alfonso Johnson discovered Stuermer and from there word spread.
I don't think he ever played with Zappa.  He did play with Ponty on
lots of albums (his acoustic solo on "New Country" is great) but he
really is more of a "typical fusion player" with nothing really original
to offer in this style.  Listen to his solos on Enigmatic Ocean and
see how typical "I can play as fast as you" he sounds next to a master
like Allan Holdsworth.

Stuermer was supposed to release a solo album that he recorded around
the time "Duke" came out.  Does anyone know what happenned to it?

Chester Thompson played with Zappa (he says that this experience
was like being in grad. school) and is quite awesome on "One Size
Fits All" and "Roxy and Elsewhere."  He played on "Black Market"
with Weather Report (most of the drumming on that album is Michael
Walden).