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From: john@moncol.UUCP (John Ruschmeyer)
Newsgroups: net.women,net.music
Subject: Re: Performers (Madonna) with sexual images seen as role models
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Date: Thu, 25-Jul-85 12:29:34 EDT
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]From: nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (Doug Alan)
]Message-ID: <4757@mit-eddie.UUCP>
]Organization: MIT, Cambridge, MA
]
]> From: seb@mtgzz.UUCP (s.e.badian)
]
]> And besides, I don't really care a heck of a lot if Madonna's pictures
]> got into Playboy and Penthouse.
]
]There's nothing wrong with nudity.  One can present a healthy and
]natural image with one's cloths on or off.  And one can present an
]unhealthy, fetishistic image with one's clothes on or off.  Madonna does
]the latter with her clothes on and (I presume) with her clothes off.

Oddly enough, the nude photos in both Playboy and Penthouse are extremely
tame. Unlike the Vanessa Williams pictorials which had some shock value,
the Madonna photos seem little more than classic, b&w, photographic nudes.
You could probably find stronger images in the art section of your local
B.Dalton Bookseller or at a museum. Despite all the hype, there are no
crotch shots, sexual devices, etc.

Actually, if you were looking for "bad" images, the only ones I could see
were some concert photos at the beginning of the Penthouse pictorial.

The real pity about the nudes is why she did them in the first place- she
needed the money! It seems that at the time all her assets were tied up in
survival. (You know, food, shelter, etc.) On the other hand, I don't think
that she needs to have any shame about this part of her past.

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