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From: zben@umd5.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Sound-alike songs
Message-ID: <693@umd5.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 1-Aug-85 05:04:00 EDT
Article-I.D.: umd5.693
Posted: Thu Aug  1 05:04:00 1985
Date-Received: Sat, 3-Aug-85 10:14:55 EDT
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Reply-To: zben@umd5.UUCP (Ben Cranston)
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Summary: Very similar but not identical

In article <1063@teddy.UUCP> lkk@teddy.UUCP writes:
>There are a number of Dead songs which in my mind sound
>VERY similar.  such as:
>IKO IKO - Women Are Smarter
>and
>I Know You Rider - Morning Dew.
>Are these the same songs, with different lyrics,
>or are they just similar?

I don't claim to be a killer musician, but I was in a Dead sound-alike
band back in '74-'75.  The songs you mention are just similar enough to
kill you if you don't watch out.  There are subtle rhythm differances,
and just where you change chords differs.

Aiko Aiko and Women Are Smarter are both one-part two-chord songs, with
the basic pattern ABBA.  Morning Dew has pattern AABB while Know You
Rider has pattern AAB - note the difference in the number of times you
play phrase B here.  Twice for Morning Dew: "Can't walk you out in the
morning dew my honey" is the first B, "Can't walk you out in the morning
dew today" is the second.  In Know You Rider the single B part is:
"Gonna miss your baby from rollin' in your arms".  The chords for part B
also differ.  Assume the key of D, then part A has chords D D C G D D D D.
In Know You Rider the single part B has F C F C D D D D, while Morning
Dew has two copies of F F C G D D D D.

Aiko Aiko and Women Are Smarter are MUCH more similar than Morning Dew
and Know You Rider...  Actually, split the notation so there are eight
letters to a part, and both AA and WAS have pattern: AAABBBBA.  Use the
A chord for part A and the E chord for part B and it's the chord pattern
too...

My neighbors are probably boiling the tar and plucking the feathers right
now for my playing my guitar enough to generate this information at five
o'clock in the morning...  :-)

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Ben Cranston  ...{seismo!umcp-cs,ihnp4!rlgvax}!cvl!umd5!zben  zben@umd2.ARPA