Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mmintl.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!pwa-b!mmintl!franka From: franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Re: Re: Credibility Message-ID: <496@mmintl.UUCP> Date: Wed, 17-Jul-85 17:01:07 EDT Article-I.D.: mmintl.496 Posted: Wed Jul 17 17:01:07 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 20-Jul-85 16:17:23 EDT References: <271@sri-arpa.ARPA> <483@oliveb.UUCP> <759@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> Reply-To: franka@mmintl.UUCP (Frank Adams) Organization: Multimate International, E. Hartford, CT Lines: 19 Summary: In article <759@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> mmar@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP (Mitchell Marks) writes: > This argument says nothing against the suggestion that 'photo' should >be 'foto'. But notice that a sound-spelling of 'photographic' might be >'fot@graefIk' , wher I'm using @ for reduced vowels like the schwa there, I have long been a bit annoyed at the insistence of linguists (phonologists?) that vowels which are "reduced" are all pronounced the same. I don't think this is actually true, at least not all the time. In the example above, the second "o" in "photographic" may be pronounced as a schwa, a long o, or anywhere in between. So why not spell it as a long o, recognizing that speakers will reduce it to varying extents, including all the way to a schwa? Let me suggest an experiment. Write down the word "photographic", and ask a number of people how it is pronounced. I suspect many if not most will clearly pronounce the second o as a long o. Granted that those same people reduce it to a schwa in ordinary conversation. But is pronunciation in ordinary conversation the only appropriate standard?