Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site im4u.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!mcnc!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!ut-sally!im4u!riddle From: riddle@im4u.UUCP Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Re: Kennedy's use of German language Message-ID: <353@im4u.UUCP> Date: Fri, 26-Jul-85 18:53:23 EDT Article-I.D.: im4u.353 Posted: Fri Jul 26 18:53:23 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 27-Jul-85 13:37:57 EDT References: <130@prime.UUCP> Distribution: na Organization: U. of Tx. at Houston-in-the-Hills Lines: 30 Ein-Wiener: "Bob" > This falls in the believe it or not category. In this month's Reader's > Digest, there is a paragraph describing John Kennedy's "Ich bin ein > Berliner" statement. Apparently, he *should* have said "Ich bin > Berliner". In fact, the article claims that "Ich bin ein Berliner" > translates to "I am a jelly doughnut". > > Someone out there must understand enough German to help me understand > why this is so...I frankly can't see it. Okay. First of all, if you looked up "Berliner" in a sufficiently encyclopedic German-English dictionary, you would find both definitions: "a person from Berlin" and "a jelly donut." The difference lies in the use of the article. There is a rule in German that you drop the indefinite article before nouns of occupation, nationality, and the like is simple sentences in the form " is ". Thus the sentence "He is a doctor" would translate to "Er ist Arzt," never "*Er ist ein Arzt." (Why the rule? Don't ask. I'm not sure there even *is* a "why" for rules like this.) Following this rule, "Berliner" can't be correctly parsed as a noun of citizenship in Kennedy's sentence, so it defaults to its second meaning, a kind of pastry named after the city of Berlin. (There was a cartoon circulating in Germany a couple of years back which portrayed Ronald Reagan saying, "Ich bin ein Hamburger!") --- Prentiss Riddle ("Aprendiz de todo, maestro de nada.") --- {ihnp4,harvard,seismo,gatech}!ut-sally!riddle riddle@ut-sally.UUCP --- riddle@ut-sally.ARPA, riddle%zotz@ut-sally, riddle%im4u@ut-sally