Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site calmasd.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcc3!sdcc6!calmasd!dmm From: dmm@calmasd.UUCP (David M. MacMillan) Newsgroups: net.nlang.celts Subject: Re: King Arthur Message-ID: <518@calmasd.UUCP> Date: Thu, 1-Aug-85 11:44:16 EDT Article-I.D.: calmasd.518 Posted: Thu Aug 1 11:44:16 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 3-Aug-85 20:54:32 EDT References: <530@leadsv.UUCP> <204@lzwi.UUCP> Reply-To: dmm@calmasd.UUCP (David M. MacMillan) Distribution: net Organization: Calma Company, San Diego, CA Lines: 38 The following quotation is from the Old English translation [attributed to King Alfred, but probably done by Mercian translators under his influence] of the Venerable Bede's [:-) The Venemous Bede's] Ecclesiastical History of the English People. [Original langauge, Latin.] Alas, I do not speak Old English, so treat my translation warily. Eth and Thorn are represented as th, and ash (the ae digraph) as ae. Waes in tha tid heora heretoga and latteow Ambrosius, haten othre noman Aurelianus. Waes god mon and gemetfaest, Romanisces cynnes mon. There was in that time a captain and leader Ambrosius, by another name called Aurelianus. He was a good man and moderate, a man of the Roman race. My Old English professor, the learned John Halverson of U.C. Santa Cruz, claimed that this was the only surviving reference to Arthur in Old English literature. The passage goes on to cite his achievements at the battle of Mt. Badon (Beadonescan dune), but my translation above is sufficiently offensive to dissuade me from attempting the whole paragraph. I don't have a copy of the entire Ecclesiastical History; my source is page 240 of Moore, Knott, and Hulbert's The Elements of Old English. I hope Old English ("Anglo-Saxon") is permissible in discussions of things Celtic. David M. MacMillan P.S. A curious topic might be the misspellings of Gaelic names. Within the past few years, an entirely new variant has arisen: MacMillian. For some reason, I find this particularly irritating.