Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site psivax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!hplabs!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: The Scientific Case for Creation: (Part 43) Message-ID: <561@psivax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 12-Jul-85 12:00:51 EDT Article-I.D.: psivax.561 Posted: Fri Jul 12 12:00:51 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 20-Jul-85 01:14:20 EDT References: <401@iham1.UUCP> Reply-To: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Distribution: net Organization: Pacesetter Systems Inc., Sylmar, CA Lines: 34 Summary: In article <401@iham1.UUCP> rck@iham1.UUCP (Ron Kukuk) writes: > > THE SCIENTIFIC CASE FOR CREATION: 116 CATEGORIES OF EVIDENCE > >II. (Astronomical Sciences): THE UNIVERSE, THE SOLAR SYSTEM, AND LIFE > WERE RECENTLY CREATED. > > C. MOST DATING TECHNIQUES INDICATE THAT THE EARTH AND SOLAR > SYSTEM ARE YOUNG. > > 82. Jupiter and Saturn are each radiating more than twice the > energy they receive from the sun [a-b]. Venus also > radiates too much energy [c]. Calculations show that it > is very unlikely that this energy comes from nuclear > fusion [d], radioactive decay, gravitational contraction, > or phase changes within those planets. The only other > conceivable explanation is that these planets have not > existed long enough to cool off [e,f]. > I discussed this with an astronomer friend of mine last night. His comments amounted to saying that this is based on a very naive model of planetary cooling, and that models exist which in fact are consistant with the observed temperatures! Since there is such a model, the cited temperatures are *not* evidence of young age. Thus indeed they have not existed long enough to cool off, but they would take much longer than the postulated age of the Solar System to do so. In addition Jupiter and Saturn are still undergoing a small amount of gravitational contraction. -- Sarima (Stanley Friesen) {trwrb|allegra|cbosgd|hplabs|ihnp4|aero!uscvax!akgua}!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen or {ttdica|quad1|bellcore|scgvaxd}!psivax!friesen