Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site cybvax0.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!think!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh From: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: A new voice. Message-ID: <617@cybvax0.UUCP> Date: Mon, 15-Jul-85 11:46:10 EDT Article-I.D.: cybvax0.617 Posted: Mon Jul 15 11:46:10 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 20-Jul-85 07:26:36 EDT References: <2156@ut-sally.UUCP> <347@scgvaxd.UUCP> <285@phri.UUCP> <358@scgvaxd.UUCP> Reply-To: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) Organization: Cybermation, Inc., Cambridge, MA Lines: 47 In article <358@scgvaxd.UUCP> dan@scgvaxd.UUCP (PUT YOUR NAME HERE) writes: > >I believe in evolution precisely > >because it best explains such things as the commonality of features > >among species. Therefore, I am not looking for "A REASON" to believe > >in evolutionary theory. > > I can just as easily say that I believe in creation because species > seem to have a common design. You can say it. But that doesn't make it valid reasoning. > This best explains the existance of such > complex structures as a brain, heart, and sexual reproduction organs. Once again, a bald statement, with no reasoning. (And where you have presented a case in the past, it has been shown to be bad, if not dishonest.) > Biological evolution seems inadequate for the development of emotions > and the ability to reason. In fact, a metaphysical explanation for them > is required. Can you describe the physical development of love, hate, or > joy? What were these emotions before they evolved into the present ones? > Did man "reason" just a little at first, than "reason" a lot later? Read "On Human Nature" by E. O. Wilson for some contemorary thought on these matters. Already we can envision evolutionary origins for emotions and reasoning: rigor will probably follow in the future. > Yes, evolution has it's answers to these questions. But, are they more > or less reasonable? More or less rational or logical? I believe they are > not. In fact, they are very incomplete. Is any naturalistic hypothesis > superior than a supernatural one just because it is naturalistic? Yes. Because a supernatural "hypothesis" cannot be improved. You're stuck with it, unchanging, hampering efforts to find naturalistic hypotheses. > Sounds to me like you want to believe in Evolution! I guess that makes > us the same! These two sentences show how complete your ignorance of science really is, and thus how truely different we are. You, a twentieth century equivalent of a superstitious peasant claiming to be just like the learned men at the universities. Because of your (scientific) illiteracy, you don't understand the differences. -- Mike Huybensz ...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh