Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site t12tst.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!oliveb!hplabs!intelca!t12tst!seshadri From: seshadri@t12tst.UUCP (Raghavan Seshadri) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: A new voice. Message-ID: <446@t12tst.UUCP> Date: Wed, 17-Jul-85 16:14:47 EDT Article-I.D.: t12tst.446 Posted: Wed Jul 17 16:14:47 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 20-Jul-85 10:06:03 EDT References: <347@scgvaxd.UUCP> <41500001@ur-univax.UUCP> Organization: Intel Microprocessor Mfg, Santa Clara Lines: 14 > first of all, the First Law of Thermodynamics does not apply to the extremely > unusually conditions during the first seconds after the big bang. > Even if this wasn't the case, why can't one say that the universe was always > here. If you say that God created it, then when and where was God created? > whatever your anwser is, it can just as easily be applied to the universe. I have a real problem understanding this reasoning.By saying that God created it,the religionists are essentially taking the picture out of the known conundrum of physical laws.Even if it looks like a copout,it cannot be disprovedOn the other hand,whatever you say about God cannot be applied to the universe which has "got to" obey the laws of physics.I am surprised that even Bertrand Russell subscribed to this flawed comparison. -- Raghu Seshadri