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From: dubois@uwmacc.UUCP (Paul DuBois)
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Subject: Re: So simple, even a creationist can understand! (Not Me!)
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Date: Fri, 19-Jul-85 11:24:35 EDT
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>> A response to Paul Torek:

>>>In article <535@psivax.UUCP> friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) writes:
>>>>So *most*, mutations are "harmful", this is where N[atural].S[election].
>>>>comes in, it amplifies the few "beneficial" ones that do occur.
> Miller replies:
>> *How* do the beneficial mutations get amplified by Natural Selection?
>> How does that "catch" in Paul's experiment relate to N.S.?  Why don't
>> some trials cause us to move to the left, or even cause us to start
>> again from the beginning?  Why must natural selection work the way Paul
>> says it does?

> [Michael Lonetto]
> SIMPLE ANSWER:  THE HARMFUL MUTATIONS CAUSE DEATH.

Simplistic, you mean.  Harmful mutations do *not* always cause death.
So what about the ones carried along in the population, the extent of 
which is, evidently, inversely related to the degree of harmfulness?

> please people, I'm getting ready to give up on you.

That's unfortunate.  Perhaps your impatience caused you to fail to
notice that the question was about beneficial mutations, not harmful
ones.  You answered (poorly) a different question.

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