Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site kontron.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!amd!pesnta!pertec!kontron!cramer From: cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: The Scientific Case for Creation: (Part 38) Message-ID: <385@kontron.UUCP> Date: Fri, 19-Jul-85 19:33:43 EDT Article-I.D.: kontron.385 Posted: Fri Jul 19 19:33:43 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 24-Jul-85 06:12:34 EDT References: <396@iham1.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Kontron Electronics, Irvine, CA Lines: 101 > > THE SCIENTIFIC CASE FOR CREATION: 116 CATEGORIES OF EVIDENCE > > I. (Life Sciences): THE THEORY OF ORGANIC EVOLUTION IS INVALID. (See > 1-36.) > > II. (Astronomical Sciences): THE UNIVERSE, THE SOLAR SYSTEM, AND LIFE > WERE RECENTLY CREATED. > > A. NATURALISTIC EXPLANATIONS FOR THE EVOLUTION OF THE SOLAR > SYSTEM AND UNIVERSE ARE UNSCIENTIFIC AND HOPELESSLY > INADEQUATE. (See 37-56.) > > B. TECHNIQUES THAT ARGUE FOR AN OLD EARTH ARE EITHER ILLOGICAL OR > ARE BASED ON UNREASONABLE ASSUMPTIONS. (See 57-67.) > > C. MOST DATING TECHNIQUES INDICATE THAT THE EARTH AND SOLAR > SYSTEM ARE YOUNG. > > 70. The occurrence of abnormally high gas and oil pressures > within relatively permeable rock implies that these fluids > were formed or encased less than 10,000 years ago. If > these hydrocarbons had been trapped OVER 10,000 years ago, > leakage would have dropped the pressure to a level far > below what it is today [a]. > > a) Melvin A. Cook, PREHISTORY AND EARTH MODELS (London: > Max Parrish, 1966), p. 341. > Or the fluids have been pressurized in the last 10,000 years. Remember, the Ice Age came to an end about that time; dramatic changes in elevation have occurred in areas overlaid by glaciers. (Yes, this has been measured --- it's not a supposition.) > 71. Over twenty-seven billion tons of river sediments are > entering the oceans each year. Probably, this rate of > sediment transport was even greater in the past as the > looser top soil was removed and as erosion reduced the > earth's relief. But even if erosion has been constant, the > sediments that are now on the ocean floor would have > accumulated in only 30 million years. Therefore, the > continents and oceans cannot be one billion years old [a]. > > a) Stuart E. Nevins, ''Evolution: The Ocean Says No!'' > SYMPOSIUM ON CREATION V (Grand Rapids: Baker, 1975), > pp. 77-83. > A whole stack of false assumptions here. 1. Top soil is continuously being created. (Observed fact --- not supposition.) 2. "...erosion reduced the earth's relief." Mountain building is believed to be a recurring process, which would increase relief in places, and reduce it in others. 3. Thirty million years is enough time, easily, to turn sediment into rock. Also, sea-floor spreading and consequent subduction at plate edges is believed to recycle sediments, rock, and anything else stupid enough to lie still on the ocean floor. 4. Human activity has had a real effect on erosion rates. San Francisco Bay, for example, has significantly different outlines than it did in 1850 because of hydraulic gold mining on the American River. Many of the coastlines of the Mediterranean have been altered because of increases in erosion caused by farming, and hydraulic gold mining by the Romans. > 72. The continents are being eroded at a rate that would level > them in much less than twenty-five million years [a,b]. > However, evolutionists believe that the fossils of land > animals and plants that are at high elevations have been > there for over 300 million years. > > a) Nevins, pp. 80-81. > b) George C. Kennedy, ''The Origin of Continents, > Mountain Ranges, and Ocean Basins,'' AMERICAN > SCIENTIST, 1959, pp. 491-504. > See my comments above about mountain building. > 73. The rate at which elements such as copper, gold, tin, > lead, silicon, mercury, uranium, and nickel are entering > the oceans is very rapid when compared with the small > quantities of these elements already in the oceans. There > is no known means by which large amounts of these elements > can precipitate out of the oceans. Therefore, the oceans > must be very much younger than a million years. > > TO BE CONTINUED > > > III. (Earth Sciences): > Ron Kukuk > Walt Brown Evidence? Remember, the solubility of most compounds depends on temperature and the presence of other dissolved compounds. Sea water is a distinctly difference environment from an ocean. (Also, some elements are concentrated in marine life --- mercury in tuna is a good example. Mercury in tuna can either end up on the bottom of the ocean in ooze, or in the stomachs of humans.)