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From: fritz@phri.UUCP (Dave Fritzinger)
Newsgroups: net.origins
Subject: Re: So simple, even a creationist can understand! (Not Me!)
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Date: Wed, 24-Jul-85 10:27:12 EDT
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Posted: Wed Jul 24 10:27:12 1985
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> >>>In article <535@psivax.UUCP> friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) writes:
> >>>>So *most*, mutations are "harmful", this is where N[atural].S[election].
> >>>>comes in, it amplifies the few "beneficial" ones that do occur.
> > Miller replies:
> >> *How* do the beneficial mutations get amplified by Natural Selection?
> >> How does that "catch" in Paul's experiment relate to N.S.?  Why don't
> >> some trials cause us to move to the left, or even cause us to start
> >> again from the beginning?  Why must natural selection work the way Paul
> >> says it does?
> 
> > [Michael Lonetto]
> > SIMPLE ANSWER:  THE HARMFUL MUTATIONS CAUSE DEATH.
> 
> Simplistic, you mean.  Harmful mutations do *not* always cause death.
> So what about the ones carried along in the population, the extent of 
> which is, evidently, inversely related to the degree of harmfulness?
> 
> > please people, I'm getting ready to give up on you.
> 
> That's unfortunate.  Perhaps your impatience caused you to fail to
> notice that the question was about beneficial mutations, not harmful
> ones.  You answered (poorly) a different question.
> Paul DuBois     {allegra,ihnp4,seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!dubois        --+--
Okay, let's try another SIMPLE answer.  THOSE MEMBERS OF A SPECIES WITH
BENEFICIAL MUTATIONS SURVIVE BETTER, AND BREED BETTER.  (After all, they
are beneficial mutations).  It is in this way that beneficial mutations
are selected for by NS.  This answer does seem obvious!!!

I too am getting ready to give up on you!!!

Dave Fritzinger

PHRI, NY,NY
allegra!phri!fritz