Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site rtp47.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!mcnc!rti-sel!rtp47!throopw From: throopw@rtp47.UUCP (Wayne Throop) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Profundity Message-ID: <109@rtp47.UUCP> Date: Thu, 25-Jul-85 16:55:56 EDT Article-I.D.: rtp47.109 Posted: Thu Jul 25 16:55:56 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 28-Jul-85 04:00:19 EDT References: <2156@ut-sally.UUCP> <347@scgvaxd.UUCP> Organization: Data General, RTP, NC Lines: 31 > > [Rich Rosen] > >As I mentioned in a previous article this level of predictivity does not > >satisfy some people. > > But that's not any level of predictivity at all! > > Rich, to tell what will happen BEFORE it happens'. > > Evolution may be many things: > [...] > ...but it is NOT PREDICTIVE! > -michael Causality shards or no, the theory of evolution *is* predictive. The usual example of this is to "predict" that isolation from predators causes prey species to lose expensive defensive adaptations. This prediction can be tested whenever a new, isolated, predator-free environment is discovered. There are, of course, other predictive features, but this is one of the most striking and clear cut. Note that this is predictive on the level of "rocks fall", not on the level of precise calculation of the *rate* of fall (and/or the point of impact). I assume that this is the "level of predictivity" that Rich is talking about. (By the way, whatever happened to the every-ten-day-reminder about the lack of creationist explainations for this phenomenon? Was Dan's reply (the only one I know of) considered to satisfy the "termination requirement"?) -- Wayne Throop at Data General, RTP, NC !mcnc!rti-sel!rtp47!throopw