Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site oliveb.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!sun!idi!oliven!oliveb!long From: long@oliveb.UUCP (Dave Long) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: the mamelian brain a kludge? Message-ID: <525@oliveb.UUCP> Date: Sat, 27-Jul-85 01:14:29 EDT Article-I.D.: oliveb.525 Posted: Sat Jul 27 01:14:29 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 28-Jul-85 06:20:33 EDT References: <362@imsvax.UUCP> Reply-To: long@oliveb.UUCP (Dave Long) Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino, Ca Lines: 42 Summary: In article <362@imsvax.UUCP> ted@imsvax.UUCP (Ted Holden) writes: | Look for a book by Eli Hellerman, one of the founders of computer science, |concerning the workings of the human mind. This book is either out now or will |be out soon. It will use the terms holography and resonance a great deal. I |am no expert on these things, but I understand some of it. Consider the way |a computer seeks to find one out of a million unsorted data items versus the |manner in which the human brain performs the same task. The brain draws a |resonant response from the data itself, likely using more than one key. The computer must examine each item, one by one. It's as if you were looking at a |million dog houses, one of which contained YOUR dog, but which one? The com- |puter would search each doghouse. The intelligent approach would be to whistle, |knowing that YOUR dog would hear and come running from whichever house he |was in, i.e. draw a response from the data itself. That is what the brain does. |Which is the kludge? FALSE ANALOGY! Faced with objects that were capable of resonant response, the computer probably would exploit that capability, and whistle also. If you were faced with a million bookshelves, with one containing YOUR burnt copy of Eli Heller- man's book, what would you do? Just like the contents of a computer memory, that book is *not* going to come if you call it. You would have to search through all the bookshelves as well. (BTW: Having never associated much with dogs, I probably wouldn't have thought of calling the dog for a long time) **** REFER TO ORIGINAL ARTICLE **** I'd like anyone to try and show how "hardware" and "software" states exist in the human mind. While states of operation of the brain seem not to be ho- mogenous, they certainly seem very non-discrete. Also, would somebody please explain how humans get this "software"? Which, BTW, does not seem to be too efficient; I'd love to have a full scientific calculator stashed away somewhere in core that I could interrupt-trap to. In- stead, I have to either use a calculator, or do some slow symbol-shunting. (If God created man, why didn't he burn the bible, etc. into rom?) If anyone is interested, I may try to do a better covering of the subject, Dave Long -- {hplabs,fortune,idi,ihnp4,tolerant,allegra,tymix}!oliveb!long