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From: lmc@denelcor.UUCP (Lyle McElhaney)
Newsgroups: net.origins
Subject: Re: Velikovsky, debunking the "debunkers"
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Date: Fri, 26-Jul-85 14:01:51 EDT
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Posted: Fri Jul 26 14:01:51 1985
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>      Articles  concerning  the  late Immanuel Velikovsky
> invariable contain  some use  of the  verb "debunk", the
> .......
>               In the unlikely event that a man like Carl
> Sagen were  ever to have seen the inside of the Prussian
> Scientific Academy  in those  days, it  would  assuredly
> have been as a janitor.
> 
>      Einstein himself apparently saw Harlow Shapley as a
> kind of a clown.
>                                                 This  is
> interesting because of the  nature of  the thirty  or so
> percent of the arguments against Velikovsky which aren't
> pure   ad-hominisms.  [sic]

>      The modern nemesis of  castrophists is,  of course,
> that Billy  Graham of yuppie science, Carl Sagan.  Sagan
> reminds me a great deal of the "Rodney" character in the
> Wizard of  Id cartoon.
>......
>      To anybody  who claims Immanuel Velikovsky has been
> debunked, I say that  the nerds  of this  century didn't
> invent debunking;   Socrates, Jesus, Copernicus, Mozart,
> Martin Luther and numerous  others I  could mention were
> debunked by  the nerds  of their  centuries as well.  In
> every case, that is all that those nerds  are remembered
> for.

Wow!  I don't think I've ever seen as much ad-hominem and/or name dropping
in a single continuous article in my life.  IV right up there with
Socrates, Jesus and numerous others. I think there's enough in this one
article to offend almost everyone who doesn't actually worship IV.

If the creationists wish to acknowledge this kind of help (sorry, I
deleted that part of the above) in establishing their theories, then
the two deserve each other.

Lyle McElhaney
...denelcor!lmc