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From: fritz@phri.UUCP (Dave Fritzinger)
Newsgroups: net.origins
Subject: Re: Velikovsky, debunking the "debunkers"
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Date: Tue, 30-Jul-85 10:33:24 EDT
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Posted: Tue Jul 30 10:33:24 1985
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> 
>      To    sum    up    on    evolution:    Velikovskian
> (catastrophic) evolution can explain  the transmuting of
> species, ONCE  YOU ALREADY  HAVE ADVANCED  LIFE FORMS ON
> THE PLANET TO BEGIN  WITH.   Velikovskian  evolution can
> also  explain  the  extinction  of  ancient  life forms.
> Darwinism can explain  little  if  anything  other than,
> perhaps,  such  things  as  Downs  syndrome,  Tay  Sachs
> disease, and possibly such degenerated types  as Shapley
> and Sagen.
> 
>      To anybody  who claims Immanuel Velikovsky has been
> debunked, I say that  the nerds  of this  century didn't
> invent debunking;   Socrates, Jesus, Copernicus, Mozart,
> Martin Luther and numerous  others I  could mention were
> debunked by  the nerds  of their  centuries as well.  In
> every case, that is all that those nerds  are remembered
> for.

This is the kind of article that will do more than anything else to get
me to "ug" this newsgroup.  The author has given no proof to support his
assertion that Velikovsky is right (or that Darwin is wrong, for that
matter).  Unfortunately, if one is to believe in what Velikovsky has to
say, one must suspend belief in modern astrophysics, chemistry, and 
biology.  This alone is enough for me to doubt seriously that 
Velikovsky has any merit. As to the authors "discussion" on evolution,
I believe that his *so-called* arguments have been discussed on the net
enough times that I don't have to bring them up again.  Please, folks, 
let's use the net for some kind of intelligent discussion, and not the
clap-trap that I am responding to.
-- 
Dave Fritzinger
Public Health Research Institute
NY,NY
{allegra!phri!fritz}

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