Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ttidcb.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!ttidca!ttidcb!cushner From: cushner@ttidcb.UUCP (Jeffrey Cushner) Newsgroups: net.pets Subject: Re: dog problem (submissive urination) Message-ID: <409@ttidcb.UUCP> Date: Mon, 15-Jul-85 13:01:26 EDT Article-I.D.: ttidcb.409 Posted: Mon Jul 15 13:01:26 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 20-Jul-85 01:34:45 EDT Organization: TTI, Santa Monica, CA. Lines: 74 What you are experiencing is an involuntary action over which the dog has no control. It is called submissive urination. It is usually caused by an emotional upset. Specifically among the various causes are: over correction, isolation, shyness, exited greetings and exits. First things first. This is not a conscience act by your pet and you should NEVER repremand, scold or punish your pet for it. Try to imagine a person who loves his family but never gets a chance to see them. Also imagine that this person has been isolated and is on the nervous edge of a breakdown. When his family does come to see him, they barge in the room, yelling and hollering, jumping up and down, hugging and kissing. Also imagine when they leave, they make a big scene crying and telling him that they'll miss him alot, then they rush out the door and they're gone. Although exaggerated, these emotional ups and downs are what these kinds of dogs don't need in their lives. If you haven't trained your dog to sit and stay, you might try doing that. Also keep a calm attitude toward her. Keep your entries and exits subdued. Rather than coming home and saying "HI GIRL!! How'ya Doin!! GOOD GIRL!!" etc. just give her a pat on the head, say hello, and go about your normal business. You mentioned scold. Check into proper correction. If you have overcorrected her, she will roll over on her back, show her neck, and submissivly urinate, when corrected. Although it's too late to correct how you bought her and the existing conditions, I thought that for the other future dog owners out there this following bit of information will help. Dogs from pet shops are usually churned out of "puppy mills" where little regard is made towards their psychological needs. These puppies are taken from their mother when "very" young. Shipped and isolated, these puppies undergo severe psychological trauma during their most sensitive mental growth period, between 6 and 12 weeks of age. The fact that you got your puppy from a pet store at 3 months means that your dog probably has undergone plenty trauma. So, to straighten out the problem the best you can: 1. Train your dog properly. Take her to classes, secure private training, or buy a few training books. This will help her make sense of life and calm her down. 2. Keep all your entries and exits calm. 3. Correct her properly. Besides this urination problem, she sounds like a great dog! Regards, -- ============================================================================== Jeff Cushner @ Citicorp-TTI Santa Monica CA 90405 (213) 450-9111 x2273 {randvax,trwrb,vortex,philabs}!ttidca!ttidcb!cushner ********************************************************************* ** The above comments do not necessarily reflect the opinions of ** ** Citicorp-TTI and if the corporation wants them to, they'll have ** ** to pay through the nose for the rights! ** *********************************************************************