Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site umcp-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!umcp-cs!flink From: flink@umcp-cs.UUCP (Paul V. Torek) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Quantum Causation Message-ID: <911@umcp-cs.UUCP> Date: Fri, 19-Jul-85 19:26:34 EDT Article-I.D.: umcp-cs.911 Posted: Fri Jul 19 19:26:34 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 21-Jul-85 01:03:07 EDT References: <2156@ut-sally.UUCP> <347@scgvaxd.UUCP> <368@spar.UUCP> <1148@pyuxd.UUCP> <405@spar.UUCP> Reply-To: flink@maryland.UUCP (Paul V. Torek) Followup-To: net.philosophy Organization: U of Maryland, Computer Science Dept., College Park, MD Lines: 20 Keywords: Re: Fundamentalist Materialism In article <405@spar.UUCP> ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) writes: > [...] It appears that causal explanations are possible only > if the concept of causality is fundamentally revised. John Forge > seems to evade the issue by suggesting that "a causal process is one > which is governed by scientific laws (theories)" (1982). On this > account of causality, every QM process becomes causal by definition > simply because QM is a scientific theory. > > (from _Scientific Explanation and the Causal Structure of the World_ > Wesley C. Salmon, Princton University Press, 1984.) I don't think John Forge is "evading" the issue. Quantum processes involve causation, all right; it is just that the causation is probabilistic rather than "deterministic". It is not the case that things happen entirely haphazardly. The impact of one particle on another will influence it -- will *cause* it to do something -- even though there are several possible effects. Any objections? --Paul V Torek, umcp-cs!flink