Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihnp1.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!ihnp1!pnp From: pnp@ihnp1.UUCP (Peter Prokopowicz) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Free Will Message-ID: <286@ihnp1.UUCP> Date: Tue, 23-Jul-85 14:04:15 EDT Article-I.D.: ihnp1.286 Posted: Tue Jul 23 14:04:15 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 25-Jul-85 04:06:37 EDT Reply-To: pnp@ihnp1.UUCP (45262-Peter Prokopowicz) Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 19 Summary: As I have just become acquainted with this august forum of scholarly debate, I ask everyone's patience should I repeat points that may have been given earlier. First, would the following be accepted as a desription of free will? Free will is the doctrine that humans are capable of deliberate (ie not random) actions which are not wholly determined by preceding events. Based on this, notions of free will founded on quantum mechanics are not valid in that they imply random actions, not deliberate choice. Also, it seems that the hypothetical rational being disussed earlier would not be free, in that its actions would be entirely predicatable, at least in priniciple, and hence wholly determined by preceding events. It seems that anyone placing faith in the modern scientific view of the world would be forced to admit that ALL events ("internal" as well as visible) are wholly determined. However, I know of no one who will claim that modern science can explain how it is that chemical processes, acting together, can produce a consciousness, free or otherwise, such as we all experience.