Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: The Emperor's New Clothes Message-ID: <1314@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Thu, 25-Jul-85 18:53:19 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1314 Posted: Thu Jul 25 18:53:19 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 27-Jul-85 01:56:36 EDT References: <1311@uwmacc.UUCP> <397@utastro.UUCP> <941@umcp-cs.UUCP> <632@cybvax0.UUCP> Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 26 >>... if you're going to base a moral absolute on Human >>Nature, you need some justification, some psychological theory that gets you >>from human nature to this principle. Rich hasn't shown any. [WINGATE] > Exactly my opinion. [HUYBENSZ] Who says you have to get from ANYWHERE to this principle, let alone specifically from "human nature"? So-called human nature has nothing to do with the principle involved. Whom do you have to justify this principle to? >>Mike's position, however, requires assent to the notion that the tendency to >>desire continuation of the species should not be fought. But then, it isn't >>really proper to try to persuade others of the resulting ethical system. It >>ceases to have anything but personal proscriptive power. > I don't understand your ideas of why my position requires any sort of assent. Me neither. > I guess that's why Paul Dubois was assailing Rosen instead. Methinks Paul is "assailing" me because the only answer he can come up with to such "obvious" statements is "PRO-FOUND!" -- Life is complex. It has real and imaginary parts. Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr