Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!tektronix!uw-beaver!cornell!vax135!houxm!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxr!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.philosophy,net.religion.christian Subject: Re: Evidences for Religion (reposting) Message-ID: <1296@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Tue, 23-Jul-85 11:43:56 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1296 Posted: Tue Jul 23 11:43:56 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 28-Jul-85 08:34:05 EDT References: <392@utastro.UUCP> <945@umcp-cs.UUCP> Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 22 Xref: linus net.philosophy:1857 net.religion.christian:943 >>This is not just an assertion on Rich's part. There is empirical evidence >>demonstrating the desirability of freedom, and the desirability of >>increasing one's chances of survival. Look at any region of the world where >>refugees are; They are fleeing totalitarian societies, famine, and >>war. This fact is all that is needed to justify Rich's point of view, and >>consequently show that freedom etc is of some value. [HOULAHAN] > But this only presents a problem if you accept the position that all lives > are of equal value, and perhaps many others as well. This simply is not > universally accepted. It isn't even clear that a majority truly accept it. > Charley Wingate umcp-cs!mangoe What is the basis for the system of beliefs of people who don't value life? How do they justify it? Looks like, as I've said all along, to rid the world of such notions would take a great educational effort teaching people how to think, how to reason, and how to know when some powermongering asshole is forcefitting them into his system of nonsense for his own ends. No one said it would be easy. -- "There! I've run rings 'round you logically!" "Oh, intercourse the penguin!" Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr